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Update vom 08.02.2010:
In dem Protokoll der Tagung in Rottach-Egern, das dem Funkmagazin jetzt
vorliegt, heißt es zum Thema "CB-Funk" (Zitat):
5.3 CB radios
No formal work item exists in this issue, but in its September 2009 meeting, WG
SE had tasked SE7 to consider the compatibility issues related to Citizens'
Band (CB) radio and the proposal to allow FM and AM modulations with 4W and SSB
with 12 W (PEP) proving better harmonisation within CEPT.
WG SE considered the findings from SE7, which had considered the System
Reference Document TR 102 626 on CB radio and also several older and newer
studies on CB compatibility issues. Based on discussions on the currently
available studies concerning CB radio, WG SE sees that the proposed power
levels for the CB radio are not expected to cause interferences to other radio
systems.
During the discussions in WG SE some concerns were raised because no sufficient
justifications were given for the necessity to increase the power. However WG
SE agreed to send the preliminary findings to WG FM as proposed by SE7. A
liaison statement on CB radio (Annex 19) to WG FM was prepared with a copy to
FM38. If there will be new inputs into SE7 on this subject or further requests
from WG FM to continue the work, WG SE will consider these new aspects and
include them into the conclusions, if necessary.
(Ende des Zitats)
Der in dem Protokoll erwähnte "Annex 19", in dem Christoph Wöste (Vorsitzender
der Arbeitsgruppe SE) seinem Kollegen Sergey Pastyuk (Vorsitzender der
Arbeitsgruppe FM) von der Tagung in Rottach-Egern berichtet, hat folgenden
Wortlaut:
Dear Sergey,
In its September 2009 meeting, WG SE had tasked SE7 to consider the
compatibility issues related to Citizens' Band (CB) radio and the proposal to
allow FM and AM modulations with 4W and SSB with 12 W (PEP) proving better
harmonisation within CEPT.
During its meeting 1-5 February 2010 in Rottach-Egern, WG SE considered the
findings from SE7, who had considered the System Reference Document TR 102 626
on CB radio and also several older and newer studies on CB compatibility
issues. Based on the discussions on the studies currently available, the key
observations were:
The type of usage has been changed. The main user group is lorry drivers,
whereas in the past, most of the users were at home, therefore there are now
higher separation distances between CB radio and possible victim receiver.
The immunity of the TV receivers has been the dominant factor in interference
cases. According to studies, the immunity and the selectivity of the TV
receivers has improved substantially compared to TV sets with were used in
older studies.
The TV broadcasting band I (43-68 MHz), which was the primary victim of earlier
CB use, is no longer used for public broadcasting in most of the CEPT
countries.
The proposed new power levels have already been allowed for a long time in some
of the CEPT countries, and there is no indication that they have suffered from
any additional interference cases.
Anyway, the CB radios have to fulfil requirements for the unwanted emission in
the spurious domain as given in ERC Recommendation 74-01, proving protection to
systems with larger frequency separation from CB.
The new studies on co-frequency situation between CB radio and cable TV network
return channels (used for internet access) have shown that no packet losses
will take place even in the worst cases.
There were also oral reports from other studies performed against several radio
systems showing no interferences from CB radio.
Based on discussions on the currently available studies concerning CB radio, WG
SE sees that the proposed power levels for the CB radio are not expected to
cause interferences to other radio systems.
During the discussions in WG SE some concerns were raised because no
justifications were given for the necessity to increase the power. However WG
SE agreed to send the preliminary findings as mentioned in the bullet points
above. If there will be new inputs into SE7 on this subject or further requests
from WG FM to continue the work, WG SE is willing to include new aspects into
the conclusions, if necessary.
Best Regards
Christoph Wöste
WG SE Chairman
(Ende des Zitats)
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73 de Hans!
>From: DHH841 @ DBO841.#NDB.BAY.DEU.EU (Hans)
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>CEPT Arbeitsgruppe SE: Keine grundsätzlichen Einwände gegen "12 Watt SSB"
>
>Die CEPT-Arbeitsgruppe "SE" ("Spectrum Engineering" - Funkverträglichkeit),
die
>vom 1. bis 5. Februar 2010 in Rottach-Egern tagte, hat keine grundsätzlichen
>Einwände gegen die geplante europaweite "12-Watt-SSB-Regelung" im CB-Funk.
Das
>geht aus einem Bericht des Vorsitzenden der Arbeitsgruppe SE hervor, der dem
>Funkmagazin vorliegt. *) Der Vorgang wird jetzt routinemäßig an die
>CEPT-Arbeitsgruppe FM (Frequenzmanagement) weitergeleitet. Damit ist ein
>weiterer Schritt zu einer europaweiten Regelung des CB-Funks getan.
>
>Im September 2009 hatte die Arbeitsgruppe "SE" ihre Unterarbeitsgruppe "SE7"
>damit beauftragt, die Funkverträglichkeit der geplanten Leistungserhöhung (12
>Watt SSB, 4 Watt AM) zu untersuchen. Die Unterarbeitsgruppe kam zu dem
>Ergebnis, dass durch die geplante Leistungserhöhung keine Störungen anderer
>Funkanwendungen zu erwarten seien.
>
>Bei einem Vorbereitungstreffen am 28. Januar 2010 in Mainz hatten die
>CB-Funk-Vereinigung DFA und Franz Ahne (als Privatperson) Einwände gegen die
>geplante Regelung erhoben (das Funkmagazin berichtete). Die Einwände wurden
>dort jedoch mehrheitlich abgelehnt.
>
>Über diese Einwände wurde auch in Rottach-Egern gesprochen. Eine
Zurückweisung
>an die Unterarbeitsgruppe SE7 (wie es die DFA und Franz Ahne gefordert
hatten)
>wurde jedoch nicht vorgenommen. Sollte es aber in dieser Sache neue Eingaben
>bei SE7 geben oder im weiteren Verlauf Fragen der Arbeitsgruppe FM
auftauchen,
>dann will sich die Arbeitsgruppe SE - wenn notwendig - damit befassen und die
>Ergebnisse in ihre abschließende Bewertung einbeziehen.
>
>- wolf -
>
>*) Eine (freie) Übersetzung des englischsprachigen Berichts ist unter
>www.dcbo.net/php/readarticle.php?article_id=515 zu finden.
>
>© FM-FUNKMAGAZIN
>www.funkmagazin.de
>
>Dieser Beitrag darf ungekürzt und mit Quellenangabe in nichtgewerbliche
Medien
>(z.B. CB-Clubzeitungen, CB-Rundsprüche, CB-Packet-Radio) übernommen werden.
>
>--
>
>Quelle: http://www.funkmagazin.de/070210.htm
>
>73 de Hans!
>
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